In this new episode of JINS Podcast, I’m joined by Andrew Burt, also known as The Virgin X — an artist, performer, and drag figure whose work is as hilarious as it is haunting, as luminous as it is politically sharp. 🌹

Together, we begin with one of the most overexposed and underheard figures in religious history: the Virgin Mary — between holiness and spectacle, silence and speech, gender and power. 🕊️ Because Mary may be one of the most sanctified women in the world. She is everywhere as image, and almost nowhere as voice.

From there, this conversation opens much wider. We talk about queerness and faith, the difference between religion and religious authority, and the ways institutions glorify feminine purity while fearing feminine speech. We explore drag as critique, satire as survival, and humour as a language that can hold unbearable truths without collapsing under them. 🃏

We also move through some of the most urgent political questions of our time: allyship versus coalition,

pinkwashing, homonationalism,

the moral instrumentalization of queer lives, the right to opacity,

the violence of being turned into a symbol in somebody else’s story,

and the possibility of returning to spaces that once rejected you — not to submit, but to transform them from within. 🌍🔥

This episode is funny, touching, unsettling, tender, theological, anti-imperial, and deeply alive. It asks what happens when the sacred stops protecting authority… and starts exposing it.

A conversation about Mary, drag, queerness, religion, power, Palestine, visibility, homonormativity, and the politics of revelation — all in one breath. ✨

If this episode moves you, share it with someone who knows that humour can be holy, and that truth sometimes arrives in drag. 🌙

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